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The 5th Lord in the 3rd House

Putra Bhava lord in the Sahaja Bhava · the 11th from the 5th · twelve ascendants computed

The 5th lord in the 3rd house is the ruler of the 5th, the Putra Bhava, placed in the 3rd, the Sahaja Bhava. The 5th is a trikona and the 3rd an upachaya. Which graha that lord is depends on the ascendant, so the table below answers for all twelve.

Counted from the 5th, the 3rd is the 11th house, which from any house is an upachaya position; counted back from the 3rd, the 5th is the 3rd, an upachaya position from it.

On the Parashari reading, in which a lord carries its house’s matters to wherever it sits, the 5th lord in the 3rd reads the 5th’s matters — children, creativity and arts, romance, and higher learning — through the 3rd’s: younger siblings, courage and effort, communication style, and short journeys. For the 5th lord in the 3rd that is a frame, not a forecast; what it comes to depends on the graha, its dignity below, and the rest of the chart.

The 5th Lord in the 3rd, Ascendant by Ascendant

Ascendant5th sign5th lordIn the 3rdDignity thereAlso rules
AriesLeoSunGeminiin a neutral sign—
TaurusVirgoMercuryCancerin an enemy's signthe 2nd
GeminiLibraVenusLeoin an enemy's signthe 12th
CancerScorpioMarsVirgoin an enemy's signthe 10th
LeoSagittariusJupiterLibrain an enemy's signthe 8th
VirgoCapricornSaturnScorpioin an enemy's signthe 6th
LibraAquariusSaturnSagittariusin a neutral signthe 4th
ScorpioPiscesJupiterCapricorndebilitatedthe 2nd
SagittariusAriesMarsAquariusin a neutral signthe 12th
CapricornTaurusVenusPiscesexaltedthe 10th
AquariusGeminiMercuryAriesin a neutral signthe 8th
PiscesCancerMoonTaurusexalted—

Across the twelve ascendants the 5th lord in the 3rd is exalted for Capricorn and Pisces, in a neutral sign for Aries, Libra, Sagittarius and Aquarius, in an enemy's sign for Taurus, Gemini, Cancer, Leo and Virgo and debilitated for Scorpio. The Sun and the Moon rule one sign each, so for Aries and Pisces, where one of them is the 5th lord, it rules no other house; for the other ten the last column gives the second house the 5th lord brings with it to the 3rd.

For Cancer ascendant (Mars, ruling the 5th and 10th), Libra ascendant (Saturn, ruling the 4th and 5th) and Capricorn ascendant (Venus, ruling the 5th and 10th), the 5th lord rules both a kendra and a trikona other than the 1st, and in the 3rd it is in an enemy's sign for Cancer, in a neutral sign for Libra and exalted for Capricorn.

The Reverse: the 3rd Lord in the 5th

Where the 3rd lord sits in the 5th in the same chart as the 5th lord in the 3rd, each lord occupies the other’s sign, an exchange the texts call parivartana. For all twelve ascendants the 5th and the 3rd have different lords, so the exchange is possible whatever the ascendant.

Related

The 5th lord in each of the twelve houses is on the 5th lord page; the houses themselves on the 5th house and the 3rd house. For the method, see the 12 houses guide and our 5th house article.

Where is your 5th lord?

A free kundli shows the ascendant and every graha’s house. A pandit reads the lordships together.

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