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The 4th Lord in the 5th House

Sukha Bhava lord in the Putra Bhava · the 2nd from the 4th · twelve ascendants computed

The 4th lord in the 5th house is the ruler of the 4th, the Sukha Bhava, placed in the 5th, the Putra Bhava. The 4th is a kendra and the 5th a trikona. Which graha that lord is depends on the ascendant, so the table below answers for all twelve.

Counted from the 4th, the 5th is the 2nd house; counted back from the 5th, the 4th is the 12th, a dusthana position from it.

On the Parashari reading, in which a lord carries its house’s matters to wherever it sits, the 4th lord in the 5th reads the 4th’s matters — mother's influence, home and property, inner contentment, and vehicles — through the 5th’s: children, creativity and arts, romance, and higher learning. For the 4th lord in the 5th that is a frame, not a forecast; what it comes to depends on the graha, its dignity below, and the rest of the chart.

The 4th Lord in the 5th, Ascendant by Ascendant

Ascendant4th sign4th lordIn the 5thDignity thereAlso rules
AriesCancerMoonLeoin a friend's sign—
TaurusLeoSunVirgoin a neutral sign—
GeminiVirgoMercuryLibrain a friend's signthe 1st
CancerLibraVenusScorpioin a neutral signthe 11th
LeoScorpioMarsSagittariusin a friend's signthe 9th
VirgoSagittariusJupiterCapricorndebilitatedthe 7th
LibraCapricornSaturnAquariusin its own signthe 5th
ScorpioAquariusSaturnPiscesin a neutral signthe 3rd
SagittariusPiscesJupiterAriesin a friend's signthe 1st
CapricornAriesMarsTaurusin a neutral signthe 11th
AquariusTaurusVenusGeminiin a friend's signthe 9th
PiscesGeminiMercuryCancerin an enemy's signthe 7th

Across the twelve ascendants the 4th lord in the 5th is in its own sign for Libra, in a friend's sign for Aries, Gemini, Leo, Sagittarius and Aquarius, in a neutral sign for Taurus, Cancer, Scorpio and Capricorn, in an enemy's sign for Pisces and debilitated for Virgo. The Sun and the Moon rule one sign each, so for Aries and Taurus, where one of them is the 4th lord, it rules no other house; for the other ten the last column gives the second house the 4th lord brings with it to the 5th.

For Libra ascendant the 4th lord, Saturn, also rules the 5th, so in the 5th it sits in its own other sign, Aquarius.

For Leo ascendant (Mars, ruling the 4th and 9th), Libra ascendant (Saturn, ruling the 4th and 5th) and Aquarius ascendant (Venus, ruling the 4th and 9th), the 4th lord rules both a kendra and a trikona other than the 1st, and in the 5th it is in a friend's sign for Leo, in its own sign for Libra and in a friend's sign for Aquarius.

The Reverse: the 5th Lord in the 4th

Where the 5th lord sits in the 4th in the same chart as the 4th lord in the 5th, each lord occupies the other’s sign, an exchange the texts call parivartana. That is possible for eleven ascendants. For Libra (Saturn) one graha rules both the 4th and the 5th, so there is nothing to exchange.

Related

The 4th lord in each of the twelve houses is on the 4th lord page; the houses themselves on the 4th house and the 5th house. For the method, see the 12 houses guide and our 4th house article.

Where is your 4th lord?

A free kundli shows the ascendant and every graha’s house. A pandit reads the lordships together.

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